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Post by cemetrygatecrasher on Apr 22, 2009 22:42:21 GMT
shambles r workin on a new one. drew's band helsinki is releasing in 2009 as well.
as 4 reliable? wellllllll he's been clean at least 4 months now and met all his tour dates but one. so...doin better...?
but you've a point
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Post by dontask on Apr 23, 2009 19:25:21 GMT
i like the idea of him recording with doherty, good move if you ask me.
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Post by fastfuse on Apr 24, 2009 14:33:16 GMT
I'm I the only that thinks this is a bad idea??  |
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Post by Fergal on Apr 24, 2009 17:36:22 GMT
I'm I the only that thinks this is a bad idea?? No you are not alone on that one |
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Post by dontask on Apr 24, 2009 19:41:30 GMT
yeah but ferg your the sort of person who would say they should leave the past glories where they are and all that bollocks, but really this aint like a smiths reunion, mavers aint gonna sell out the MEN. he just wants to make music and clearly likes pete as all of us do.
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Post by Fergal on Apr 24, 2009 20:00:34 GMT
My point is, comebacks and reforms and that are rarely very good. I reckon Mathers could do a very good job of it if he did it properly, and I don't reckon Doherty is the route to doing that, he could do a very good job of it but I reckon Doherty may just be a hinderance to that. Mathers will have a harder time "coming back" than he expects, as, with all due respect, you can't come back when you never was there initially, the La's never took off in a big way and never had the sort of fan base then that could keep Mathers ticking over now. Prove me wrong, by all means, I'd love to hear those songs live, but I just don't get a good feelin' (excuse the pun!) about this
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Post by cemetrygatecrasher on Apr 24, 2009 20:36:41 GMT
you ask me...the guy loves to make music. & as he said he really loves to make music with shambles. so it comes down to that.
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Post by sirmavers on Apr 24, 2009 21:19:26 GMT
I love the idea, but I can't get my head round why he can't just use one of the original line-ups. I say that if Pete get's a hand in the songwriting or singing then the whole idea is dead and buried but if Shambles are just for a backing band then let it be, but as we all know, it's just talk. Still, Lee and John are still in good contact and that so no reason why they wouldn't reform themselves, just sounds like someone having to big a mouth to me.
And for the note, Lee DOES have the songs, heard plenty of demos and ask anyone on the La's forum and they will agree, he has the magic, but whether he wants to use it is something else, some people just like to keep themselves to themselves.
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Post by upton on Apr 25, 2009 11:47:10 GMT
All the people Peter bashing don't really have a clue what they are talking about sorry this isn't the lost years any more he is slightly more on track at the moment has to be said he has come on tenfold recently.
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Post by cemetrygatecrasher on Apr 25, 2009 13:01:39 GMT
well i don't know if they are BASHING really? honestly i think they are being massively more considerate then most. i don't agree with not giving him credit where it's due if he has been sober lately--but i do see where they are coming from, as well. they aren't saying "frak that junkie, let him rot." they are saying "he has been proven to be unreliable and that worries us about the end state of the music that will come out of that."
i DO AGREE with you. pete is doing much much better and EVEN WHEN HE WAS F-ED ALL THE TIME he still made amazing music.
okay....put it to you all this way--what if it WASNT PETE? what if it was just drew and mick and adam? then what? would that be acceptable? i mean...can you at least give credit due to them as musicians? they could do something really wonderful here...they've done it time and again.
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Post by dontask on Apr 25, 2009 13:49:12 GMT
yeah but the point is he obviously aint doing it for the money, because like you say the popularity aint really there. so hes doing because he wants to and because he has the passion to not because he wants a few quid ala the verve, rage against the machine etc.
that n i have faith in him to make the best decisions about where he wants his music to be, unless of course he comes onto the forums and goes "oh noes, ferg doesnt like the idea, ill crawl back into a day job because he doesnt like it".
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Post by upton on Apr 25, 2009 15:18:07 GMT
Tbh I would be happy with Lee Mavers doing it all by himself so Shambles just a plus for me.
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Post by mc18988 on Apr 25, 2009 16:09:44 GMT
Doherty would run this country better than most at the moment, pete for prime minister
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Post by Fergal on Apr 25, 2009 16:55:37 GMT
that n i have faith in him to make the best decisions about where he wants his music to be, unless of course he comes onto the forums and goes "oh noes, ferg doesnt like the idea, ill crawl back into a day job because he doesnt like it". Actually that's where you're wrong, the Roses, the Smiths and the Beatles were all planning to reform until they came on S&C and saw me say they shouldn't, they decided after seeing me chastise the idea that it would be best not to. The Verve only reformed because I told them to really |
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Post by fastfuse on Apr 25, 2009 17:04:36 GMT
The short answer is yes. Pete isn't my cup of tea but even I understand how talented he is, I think hes a great songsmith.....Why doesn't Mavers just do an album with him if thats what he wants to do? Its not going to a la's album with Pete Docherty involved its going to turn out to be be 'addicts unplugged' Can no one else see this is not a good idea, for two struggling heroin addicts to spend a large amount of time together on a tour bus or in a studio?? TEMPTATION!! Its going to end in tears  . Lets not forget this is the man that took about 3 attempts to record the debut it was a long drawn out process I wouldn't expect anyhting untill at least 2011 thats if he can stay off the junk?? I really want to her some some stuff from Lee....I really do, but I'd much rather it was with John Power (who can write a half decent tune) and some of the original lads involved (to be fair theres loads of them) or he could grab some new musicians (i.e Weller.) There behavior will get more coverage than any record they release, if Pete wasn't involved I'm sure things would different. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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