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Post by mardybum8 on Feb 26, 2010 18:10:08 GMT
Musically they were good but they've lost their spark. What happened to Alex's onstage banter? I saw Arctics a few days after Kasabian and all I could think about was how amazing Kasabian had been a few nights before.
As I say musically they were sound but there was just something not quite right...
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Post by cb on Feb 26, 2010 18:11:54 GMT
Saw them at leeds, they were headlining. Terrible.
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Post by mardybum8 on Feb 26, 2010 18:20:59 GMT
Yeah, I was at Reading. Choice of setlist was awful, really let them down they could of had a great set. I knew all the songs as I had the leak but for your average Reading goer it wasn't fair. They've just completely ignored what the fans want to hear and are playing what they want to play instead. Fair dos they get bored of certain songs but you would think WEPSIATIWIN didn't even exsist at times
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Post by dontask on Feb 26, 2010 23:26:27 GMT
no problem with the setlist choice, i do have a problem with the lack of ...yeah spark is the right word.
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Post by benraul on Feb 27, 2010 19:40:13 GMT
What do people want from a Live Arctic Monkeys performace? People say they are awful live but why? The tunes sound great, Alex's voice is always spot on. What mroe do you want? Lights? Lazers? Banter? Give me top tunes over all that anyday.
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Post by benraul on Feb 27, 2010 19:46:03 GMT
Yeah, I was at Reading. Choice of setlist was awful, really let them down they could of had a great set. I knew all the songs as I had the leak but for your average Reading goer it wasn't fair. They've just completely ignored what the fans want to hear and are playing what they want to play instead. Fair dos they get bored of certain songs but you would think WEPSIATIWIN didn't even exsist at times Thats the whole point. Why churn out the same tried and tested formuler? Why play to please others? You should make music from the heart, what you want to make. This is the most relaxed I have ever seen the Arctics, making music they want to make. It just seems so easy and nonchelant for them. I love their new style. Musically they have all improved. Alex's lyrical style continues to grow. They will continue to play old classics like IBYLGOTD, Brianstorm, Still Take You Home, 505 etc but they are proud of their new stuff so want to play it. I like the fact they dont go out to try and please the majority of people who want the stuff fromt he first album. |
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Post by Fergal on Feb 27, 2010 20:58:27 GMT
Yeah, I was at Reading. Choice of setlist was awful, really let them down they could of had a great set. I knew all the songs as I had the leak but for your average Reading goer it wasn't fair. They've just completely ignored what the fans want to hear and are playing what they want to play instead. Fair dos they get bored of certain songs but you would think WEPSIATIWIN didn't even exsist at times Thats the whole point. Why churn out the same tried and tested formuler? Why play to please others? You should make music from the heart, what you want to make. This is the most relaxed I have ever seen the Arctics, making music they want to make. It just seems so easy and nonchelant for them. I love their new style. Musically they have all improved. Alex's lyrical style continues to grow. They will continue to play old classics like IBYLGOTD, Brianstorm, Still Take You Home, 505 etc but they are proud of their new stuff so want to play it. I like the fact they dont go out to try and please the majority of people who want the stuff fromt he first album. I agree to an extent and that'd be fair enough and I do admire that mentality but the problem is they're no longer that good of a live band, certainly not a patch on what they were and they just don't really cut it live anymore. Even in terms of what they do now, it's just not done very well I don't feel. I do think they'll come out of it the other end but it's not the set list that's the main fault, though the set list is dodgy, it's them as a live band. It isn't about banter or goblins and laser beams onstage, it's just about giving it everything and where they always did, it just doesn't seem like they do now |
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Post by dontask on Feb 27, 2010 21:05:00 GMT
ben ; i love that the arctics are making the music they want to. and i love humbug. there is however a difrence between relaxed and half arsed. and like it or not, when your playing arenas there needs to be more than just your tunes. some sort of show. even kasabian embraced this.
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Post by Fergal on Feb 27, 2010 21:08:24 GMT
I disagree, you don't need an effects or lights set up or anything more ornate than what the band use, look at Oasis, done massive massive gigs and never had any of that crap (save for a few dubious phoneboxes and melting clocks in '97), you don't need that, it's about passion and the tunes at the end of the day. Few people I know who've seen Arctic Monkeys in the last year have returned a satisfied customer, which is sad really
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Post by Sean on Feb 27, 2010 21:22:06 GMT
i thought they were top at the m.e.n
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Post by benraul on Feb 27, 2010 22:48:24 GMT
I think the reason people think they are being 'half assed' or not bothered is because of the tunes they play. If you saw them tomorrow and they did the first album, that cant help but be up beat. You cant perform that album by being lackluster.
Another thing we have to remember is that Nick and Jamie have never been animated on stage. They are very regimented in their stage positions, rarely show emotion and stand pretty still. We rely on Alex and Matt for energy. This energy comes through performing songs from the first album like I said at the top. The songs from the 3rd are alot slower and darker, less is required to perform them and the songs are quite atmopheric. What do we expect if they perform My Propeller? What do we want when they play Dance Little Liar? It is such a massive swing from one extreme to the other. View from the Afternoon to Cornerstone.
Kasabian have always been performers. Tom is a very energetic and solid forntman. He is a showman. He doesnt have to worry about an instrament, which gives him license to be free on stage. Other bands dont get that. Serge is also a big character, flamboyant and performs to the crowd. Bands are different and offer different things.
I have seen the Arctics 7 times I think it is. Twice since the new album broke. The first time I saw them was in a small venue before they broke. It was exciting. It still is for me seeing them. But I dont see a change in their performances. Jamie and Nick sill do the same. Matt is his hard hitting self. It all comes down to Alex then......
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Post by dontask on Feb 28, 2010 11:14:01 GMT
I disagree, you don't need an effects or lights set up or anything more ornate than what the band use, look at Oasis, done massive massive gigs and never had any of that crap (save for a few dubious phoneboxes and melting clocks in '97), you don't need that, it's about passion and the tunes at the end of the day. Few people I know who've seen Arctic Monkeys in the last year have returned a satisfied customer, which is sad really oh dont get me wrong, you cant have a good show and shit tunes, it just wont work. im under no delusions, the tunes are far and away the most important thing. but if i was in nosebleed seats i wouldnt be assed about the difference between live and watching it on tv. |
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Post by mardybum8 on Feb 28, 2010 13:07:16 GMT
Yeah, I was at Reading. Choice of setlist was awful, really let them down they could of had a great set. I knew all the songs as I had the leak but for your average Reading goer it wasn't fair. They've just completely ignored what the fans want to hear and are playing what they want to play instead. Fair dos they get bored of certain songs but you would think WEPSIATIWIN didn't even exsist at times Thats the whole point. Why churn out the same tried and tested formuler? Why play to please others? You should make music from the heart, what you want to make. This is the most relaxed I have ever seen the Arctics, making music they want to make. It just seems so easy and nonchelant for them. I love their new style. Musically they have all improved. Alex's lyrical style continues to grow. They will continue to play old classics like IBYLGOTD, Brianstorm, Still Take You Home, 505 etc but they are proud of their new stuff so want to play it. I like the fact they dont go out to try and please the majority of people who want the stuff fromt he first album. I wasn't talking about their own gigs, I was talking about the Reading performance in which I think it was pretty stupid to play new songs for the majority of their set when their album had only been out since monday. Everyone was moaning after their set and I'm just saying that set could have been great if they played more oldies, you have to take into consideration at a festival that most people aren't there just to see you. I love Humbug and yes it's very big step forward, some hate it but I love it. I'm just saying their live performances aren't what they used to be, musically they're sound, blah, blah, blah. But live performances aren't just about that it's the atmosphere as well and Wembley had it's moments, yes but I wasn't blown away which shocked me as I've been a big fan for a very long time. |
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Post by benraul on Feb 28, 2010 14:01:45 GMT
Thats the whole point. Why churn out the same tried and tested formuler? Why play to please others? You should make music from the heart, what you want to make. This is the most relaxed I have ever seen the Arctics, making music they want to make. It just seems so easy and nonchelant for them. I love their new style. Musically they have all improved. Alex's lyrical style continues to grow. They will continue to play old classics like IBYLGOTD, Brianstorm, Still Take You Home, 505 etc but they are proud of their new stuff so want to play it. I like the fact they dont go out to try and please the majority of people who want the stuff fromt he first album. I wasn't talking about their own gigs, I was talking about the Reading performance in which I think it was pretty stupid to play new songs for the majority of their set when their album had only been out since monday. Everyone was moaning after their set and I'm just saying that set could have been great if they played more oldies, you have to take into consideration at a festival that most people aren't there just to see you. I love Humbug and yes it's very big step forward, some hate it but I love it. I'm just saying their live performances aren't what they used to be, musically they're sound, blah, blah, blah. But live performances aren't just about that it's the atmosphere as well and Wembley had it's moments, yes but I wasn't blown away which shocked me as I've been a big fan for a very long time. Fair enough, what would you want from them to be blown away? |
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Post by Sean on Feb 28, 2010 15:41:53 GMT
pretty much everyone already had the leak though. its the bands decision to play what they want at a gig, they played basically the whole of humbug when i went to watch them and i thought it was quality.
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