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Post by upton on Oct 6, 2009 14:47:16 GMT
To be fair he does like Muse and is probs a loser  |
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Post by dontask on Oct 6, 2009 15:46:37 GMT
It wasn't that comment that annoyed me, it was a lot over a period of time and I possibly did sensationalise my point, however respecting people's opinions is what I'm doing, it's what I'm here for, I'm not bothered what anyone likes really, it doesn't have anything to do with me - it's just occasionally when talking about bands like Oasis you make out that the fans are in the wrong and must be brain dead luddites to like the band, that your opinion is gospel and that your authority is superior without giving some reasons and I just think it contradicts the point of arguing about music. I didn't say anything to kick things off, I've better things to do with my time to start petty arguments on internet forums and I'm sure you do too, I'm merely stating my annoyance. right well fair enough but the only comment i can think of is the thom yorke comment which was of course not mine anyway, though i do agree with it. if ive come across as saying anyone who likes oasis is brain dead then id like to apologise now. theres alot of you on here, and the courteeners themselves I'm sure are. the same goes for other bands im not a fan of like the Stone Roses and the Smiths. particularly apologies to yourself fergal but im sure others were annoyed yet less vocal so thank you for saying. and upton; your a clown. |
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Post by IrlamHillbilly on Oct 6, 2009 17:22:48 GMT
Kingdom Of Rust - Doves they're easily as good as elbow too if not better, underated band, if they had won a mercury award they would have a much bigger following, as with elbow! Absolutely agree. Elbow's album sales went up 700% when they won the Mercury Music Prize and I believe Doves would have done something similar if they had been nominated or won. They are definately hughely underated. |
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Post by upton on Oct 6, 2009 18:41:06 GMT
Ney.
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Post by Fergal on Oct 6, 2009 21:17:56 GMT
It wasn't that comment that annoyed me, it was a lot over a period of time and I possibly did sensationalise my point, however respecting people's opinions is what I'm doing, it's what I'm here for, I'm not bothered what anyone likes really, it doesn't have anything to do with me - it's just occasionally when talking about bands like Oasis you make out that the fans are in the wrong and must be brain dead luddites to like the band, that your opinion is gospel and that your authority is superior without giving some reasons and I just think it contradicts the point of arguing about music. I didn't say anything to kick things off, I've better things to do with my time to start petty arguments on internet forums and I'm sure you do too, I'm merely stating my annoyance. right well fair enough but the only comment i can think of is the thom yorke comment which was of course not mine anyway, though i do agree with it. if ive come across as saying anyone who likes oasis is brain dead then id like to apologise now. theres alot of you on here, and the courteeners themselves I'm sure are. the same goes for other bands im not a fan of like the Stone Roses and the Smiths. particularly apologies to yourself fergal but im sure others were annoyed yet less vocal so thank you for saying. and upton; your a clown. Thank you, I've no problem with you and got particularly annoyed with people trying to incite some sort of forum argument, I've met you and you're a decent lad and I look forward to seeing you again at G Mex, it's just when elitism and stuff like that creeps into comments I get annoyed. Apology accepted my friend, and I'm sure you meant nothing but good. And aye, the Thom Yorke comment pissed me off, though it was more at him than you, I thought he was bang wrong. Oasis' success has nothing to do with middle class people trying to look working class by commending them, from when they were playing the Boardwalk to Knebworth to Heaton Park it never ever had anything to do with that. |
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Post by Sean on Oct 7, 2009 5:14:06 GMT
Kingdom Of Rust - Doves they're easily as good as elbow too if not better, underated band, if they had won a mercury award they would have a much bigger following, as with elbow! Absolutely agree. Elbow's album sales went up 700% when they won the Mercury Music Prize and I believe Doves would have done something similar if they had been nominated or won. They are definately hughely underated. this could and could not have happened really :/ even though their album sales went up 700% just because they won the mercury it doesnt always happen. i read a article a few days ago about that speech debelle who won it this year and he sales went up 3000% but it only meant she'd sold another 9,000 records. also said that she was playing gigs to about 50 people in 200 people venues so i don't think the mercury will gurantee success anymore :/ i'll have to listen to the doves album a bit more though  |
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Post by IrlamHillbilly on Oct 7, 2009 15:58:48 GMT
Absolutely agree. Elbow's album sales went up 700% when they won the Mercury Music Prize and I believe Doves would have done something similar if they had been nominated or won. They are definately hughely underated. this could and could not have happened really :/ even though their album sales went up 700% just because they won the mercury it doesnt always happen. i read a article a few days ago about that speech debelle who won it this year and he sales went up 3000% but it only meant she'd sold another 9,000 records. also said that she was playing gigs to about 50 people in 200 people venues so i don't think the mercury will gurantee success anymore :/ i'll have to listen to the doves album a bit more though Yea but Elbow and the Doves are similiar bands who had similiar success prior to Elbow's Mercury win. Thats why I made the comparison. |
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Post by Sean on Oct 7, 2009 17:14:23 GMT
Fair enough, I think my post was more about the Mercury's than anything  I enjoyed Kingdom Of Rust by Doves. |
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Post by mc18988 on Oct 7, 2009 17:14:51 GMT
yeah you can't compare speech as she was hardly known by anyone where as elbow/doves had much bigger followings in the 1st place
for example selling out manc academy one is one thing, selling out the MEN not too soon after is a massive step
depends on the artist that wins really on whether they build on that success, remember miss dynamite-hee hahaha
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Post by Sean on Oct 7, 2009 17:32:25 GMT
yeah fair point, i think it should've gone too florence and the machine, kasabian, the horrors or glasvegas this year. friendly fires were good but i dont think they're as good as the others.
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Post by dontask on Oct 7, 2009 18:11:03 GMT
right well fair enough but the only comment i can think of is the thom yorke comment which was of course not mine anyway, though i do agree with it. if ive come across as saying anyone who likes oasis is brain dead then id like to apologise now. theres alot of you on here, and the courteeners themselves I'm sure are. the same goes for other bands im not a fan of like the Stone Roses and the Smiths. particularly apologies to yourself fergal but im sure others were annoyed yet less vocal so thank you for saying. and upton; your a clown. Thank you, I've no problem with you and got particularly annoyed with people trying to incite some sort of forum argument, I've met you and you're a decent lad and I look forward to seeing you again at G Mex, it's just when elitism and stuff like that creeps into comments I get annoyed. Apology accepted my friend, and I'm sure you meant nothing but good. And aye, the Thom Yorke comment pissed me off, though it was more at him than you, I thought he was bang wrong. Oasis' success has nothing to do with middle class people trying to look working class by commending them, from when they were playing the Boardwalk to Knebworth to Heaton Park it never ever had anything to do with that. i think there is a certain amount of that...but i wouldnt say their success was based on it or anything. apologies for seeming elitist too, i may like stuff like muse radiohead n what not but i also do like the courteeners and the libertines so i wouldnt like to give the impression i need a synth and some virtuoso guitar work to love a band |
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Post by cb on Oct 7, 2009 20:12:18 GMT
ignore the ignorant is such a good album
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Post by Sean on Oct 8, 2009 5:13:40 GMT
it is a good album yeah. you probably like it more because you saw them live though
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Post by upton on Oct 8, 2009 16:16:40 GMT
It's a good album but what did you expect The Cribs made 4 class albums now I think for me in order it goes.
The New Fellas
The Cribs
Ignore The Ignorant
MNWNW.
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Post by lysergicacid on Oct 13, 2009 2:55:36 GMT
Man I love Years of refusal, I love the sound of it, reminds me somewhat of Your Arsenal (my fav mozzer). Fair bit better than his last 2 and dare I say it seems a lot more upbeat. On the whole its been a pretty meh year. Kasabian is the stand out album 4 me. Dam you arctics and your new sound and direction  |
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I enjoyed Kingdom Of Rust by Doves.
