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Post by dontask on Nov 28, 2008 22:03:44 GMT
aye same way i respect what bands like the smiths n the roses accomplished.
what gets to me is that, although i like the odd song by both, n others, w/e, paul weller, ian brown, and morrisey have all come across as pricks to me so far. n theres a difference between personality n pricks.
the no nonsense thing works for me though i just skip between genres depending on my mood. for example i think the corals first album is a thing of absolute genius, one of my favourite ever. however the coral are truely no-nonsense, they focus mainly on the music instead of other shit, which even the courteeners i cant say do, or oasis. and even muse so yeah.
i know this alienates alot of people but do you see what i mean? i do like the above bands. obv the courteeners.
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Post by kokainekinney on Nov 28, 2008 22:21:15 GMT
paul weller, ian brown, and morrisey have all come across as pricks to me so far. n theres a difference between personality n pricks! what? cant believe your calling these people pricks.....weller and brownie might not be to your taste, but dont bring mozza into this! come on man, think about it! |
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Post by Fergal on Nov 28, 2008 22:24:58 GMT
How do Weller, Brownie and Mozzer come across as pricks? Like just bring up some examples or sumat, I don't get it.
Mozzer can be a bit "difficult" but his heart is always in the right place. Weller and Brownie though, you can't find a flaw with either of them two, no pretense nor prickish behaviour or whatever
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Post by ste on Nov 28, 2008 22:34:35 GMT
I agree with Fergo, Weller or Mozzer have never said anything that make them seem like pricks... Are they pricks because they are better than you? Have more money than you? Is it jelousy?
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Post by dontask on Nov 29, 2008 13:13:38 GMT
morrisey with his glastonbury 2003 thing though prick may have been hasty us i dont know the full story but whatever.
weller, not for refusing the reunite the jam, thats his choice, but for openly mocking them in the media and calling them a "travelling circus"
brown i may have been extra hasty with so i apologise but id had a few last night in my defence like. so i retract what i said about him.
n yeah ste yeah im jealous thats what it is, why didnt i see it.
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Post by Fergal on Nov 29, 2008 13:37:21 GMT
What was the Glastonbury 2003 thing? :S I don't recall anything controversial about that...did he even play in 2003? I thought it was '04 that he played, after the success of Quarry
And if I was Weller I'd mock them in the media, "From the Jam" is nothing but cheap caberet off Weller's name and I understand Rick n Bruce haven't been as succesful as Weller and need to bring in the money like but it was still a mockery
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Post by dontask on Nov 29, 2008 15:55:51 GMT
i meant 2004 n i dunno i read he left the crowd in a bad mood or something, on the other hand i could be wrong i dont know the full story.
as for mocking in the media, it just shouldnt be done full stop but for weller to openly do it like that, i understand him not wanting to join but in my opinion the jams music was miles better than anything weller ever did solo. cheap caberet or not, i went to their show at 53 n thought it was good.
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Post by Fergal on Nov 29, 2008 16:33:18 GMT
Don't believe all you read. His set was storming, from what I've seen on telly and set lists and that. If there's one thing Morrissey will never do, it's let down a crowd who don't let him down.
Aye my Dad went to "From the Jam" at 53 degrees and said it were alright but at the end of the day, they're a glorified tribute band and it's fucking with the legacy, and Weller wrote the tunes they're making money off on tour, I reckon that gives him a right to comment on them. If he thinks is shit should he lie and go "oh yeah they're great" or tell the truth? I dunno bout you, but I'd rather hear honesty than anything else
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Post by fastfuse on Nov 29, 2008 21:25:37 GMT
On one hand I feel a bit sorry for Rick & Bruce, yeah Weller was the talented one and wrote all the tunes but it must have been a shit to be in one of the biggest bands in britan and basically be told to f*ck off........services no longer required.
I dont think they should be touting the band name its a bit shit like, but they must miss the gig thing.
Morrissey has pissed his fans of in the past he canceld that gig at the Albert Hall the other year about 10 minutes before he was due on stage!!!! NOT IDEAL sure there was a good reason????Ian Brown plays up every now and then air rage etc.....but from what I've seen he's good to his fans and Wellers is a grumpy c**t he is 50....what do you expect, I'll be fucked off when i'm 50 (in about 12 years)
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Post by Fergal on Nov 29, 2008 21:53:43 GMT
12 years? Knock the 1 off that and you're about right  And aye, voice problems I think, Moz keeps his fans to his heart. A thing I love about him is how he still knows what its like to be young and bored in a shit town and references it even in America and that, like once in America he's came on stage and said "Good evening Doncaster" and at G-Mex he came on and said "My, how Accrington's changed" and in Blackburn said hello to "The Clitheroe kid's", stuff like that I love, you dont get that off Bono. And aye you do feel a bit sorry for Rick and Bruce but apparantly, according to the legend that is John Weller, they were taking advantage of Weller's talents and didn't want to move on from the traditional Jam sound and experiment, a la Style Council, so fair enough really. May I just also add, Style Council were top! |
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Post by fastfuse on Nov 30, 2008 10:09:51 GMT
Oh f**k off Ferg, style council were bobbins. Him and Mick Talbot lying on f**k**g blankets playing with each others ears with there shirts off, or what about Weller paddling that boat with his straw hat on, or dancing on top of the double decker bus like some c**t??? What about the make up and highlights??? They did about three good tunes (all on that hit Parade album) Cafe bleu I'm not having any of that f**k**g horrible homo nonsense.
I respect Weller for finishing the jam it took bottle to do it, as for the other two taking advantage I think thats bollocks really, he knew when he was in a band with them they were never going to contribute a great deal (Bruce Foxtons songs were shite)
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Post by dontask on Nov 30, 2008 11:36:33 GMT
could have not commented at all! even if it is a tribute band so what? they acknowledged that by callin themselves "from the jam" and having being too young to see the real jam, like you yourself ferg, it was nice to have something close. and it was closer than a paul weller gig id wager.
just had a proper read on that performance. fair enough mate it sounds quite good to me. but the point was that them 3 artists are not no-nonsense. i stand by it.
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Post by Fergal on Nov 30, 2008 11:44:02 GMT
Aye it is nice to have sumat close, I'm not knocking them I'm just saying Weller has the right to comment, and I've seen a few Jam tribute bands and had some quality nights, I proper would have loved to have seen them back when they were the Jam like. And aye it would have been closer to a Jam gig experience than a Weller gig, but that's not a bad thing, Weller's moved on, he's got his own classics now and plenty of them. I could go to a Weller gig and not be disapointed if he didn't play a Jam song, though it's class that he's started playing Butterfly Collector and Eton Rifles again
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Post by fastfuse on Nov 30, 2008 13:30:29 GMT
I reckon going to a Weller gig is more like a jam gig......same as an Ian Brown and Morrissey, there the singers it dosn't REALLY matter who else plays as long as the singers singing em.. No one else plays like Johhny Marr granted or John Squire.
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Post by dontask on Nov 30, 2008 15:29:34 GMT
i know what you mean fuse. its the singer that seperates bands (i dont mean breaks up i mean makes them different). but what i meant is wellers newer stuff is dead far away from the jams stuff.
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