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Post by Exo-Happiness on Oct 23, 2009 1:08:56 GMT
Me? Wasted? NEvere!
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 24, 2009 22:40:11 GMT
Sorry. But due to reasons that have f*ck to do with any of you, I won't be posting poetry on here any longer. Maybe one day, if I truly catch something that is magic, I will share it again, but until then, I will only share my words with the people who I care about most, and the people who care about me. These are the people that give me a reason to live, and the reason to live is what keeps me catching these words. If I live long enough, then I'll make something of myself, I may only have days or weeks left, who knows? But whatever happens, my words for now belong to me and the people who I hold closest to me. Thankyou to anyone who actually read anything I did, particularly the people who understood it (if anyone), sure you'll see me again. The message I send, will reach you in the end.
I will still look after this part of the forum, and hope that something good will come of it.
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Post by Darren on Oct 25, 2009 6:55:02 GMT
Surely not Ant, your poems always come from the heart and soul I understand your decision but I'm hoping it's the quickest turnaround since Lily Allen and I do hope you continue to help out, it would be a shame if you left us
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Post by Exo-Happiness on Oct 25, 2009 8:35:08 GMT
ANT! NO! Please...?
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 25, 2009 13:00:39 GMT
I sit here at work on my dinner trying to write in my head and trying to catch something. No one will lose out, poetry has lost its meaning, and I'm trying to re-capture it.
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Post by dontask on Oct 25, 2009 17:53:26 GMT
then dont make yourself write to meet our demands. write when something comes to you and post that but dont force it. i think thats were you have gone wrong
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 25, 2009 18:01:54 GMT
No no, that's where you're wrong. That is what I used to do, I used to write just as I felt the need to, and it wasnn't that good. Now I understand that it doesn't work like that, poetry is caught, all these words and lines are floating around, they aren't relevant to anyone in particular, it's just that te lucky person who catches them in their net feels that they are relevant to themselves. It's up to us as poets to cathc them and bring them down in their finest form. I find lines, in mid air, then put them down and try to keep them relevant, and I want everything I do to be perfect, it has to be at it's best, I feel that all the poems I catch are the best ones, I feel really lucky, and I need to get that across to everyone. Unfortunately, the closer you get to God, the closer you get to temptation. Like I caught lines today at work, a coule of them, but after thinking about them, they went, lost any meaning they may have had and wouldn't fit anywhere. I truly think that one day, this lifetime or another, I will catch some truly amazing poems, like ones that will change the way the wind blows, change the air we breathe, and they will bring tears to peoples eyes. The stuff I've been posting is mediocre, because it is written, and not caught, the ones that are caught and not thought about are the best.
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Post by dontask on Oct 25, 2009 18:43:56 GMT
an incredibly convuluted way of saying what i said. it sounds quite alot to me like you've let your opinion of some of your stuff get quite out of hand. its good, but its not on scruffs level and its not on alices level. rather than stop, try different things with your poetry, go in different directions, because alot of your stuff has all the same form.
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 25, 2009 18:48:33 GMT
No. I will write what I catch. I don't do the whole direction thing, because that would be to write rather than catch. That would be forcing something upon myself that I don't want. Let's not go into who's as good as who, I have my opinions of other peoples poetry, which I'm not going to share right now, but I firmly believe that what I can do is massive. I know you don't believe me, story of my life, no one has ever believed in me in whatever I do, I've always been bought down, until now. Finally I believe along with other people that I can do something well. I will do it my way, my way is to wait for the lines to float by, I will bring tem down and keep them as they should be. No more writing about people and places, just write the things that I am told to write.
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Post by Exo-Happiness on Oct 25, 2009 18:52:00 GMT
That's some pretty intense stuff there Ant. Seriously. I only ever write when i'm feeling in the moment. I lie in bed and something comes to me so i type it in to my phone or write it down. And then it's done. I never think about what i'm writing. Which is why i don't rhyme. It just seems forced when I try to rhyme. That is when I find the meaning is lost. So like Luke said, try and go in different directions. That one you wrote when you didn't rhyme was really good. I think you shouldn't stop because you really are talented. And an inspiration to many. But yeah. Just try and be a bit more spontaneous maybe? I dunno. Why this all of a sudden?
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 25, 2009 19:02:57 GMT
I write a few that don't rhyme, but they aren't better than anything else I've done. I've done a few in last week that are amazing. I won't change directions, it doesn't work ike that, you need to understand the principle of 'catching' words, rather than writing them. If you write, than you force, before every calm there is a storm, before every great day there is a dawn, it's just painful to force anything good out, because it isn't real. The only real words are the ones that are given to you or told to you in the skies, the ones that float past you when you least expect, that way you aren't straining yourself, strain leads to stress, stress leads to depression, depression leads to the worse outcome you can think of. Don't fool yourself by chasing that light that someone points to, because the light you chase is what will point you in the right direction, and closer to God, kill the temptation to press yourself. I'll never be undone, never out of my bubble, I've found how it works now and it's leading to better places. As for the rhyming, that is just part of the package, I don't force the rhyming, when I found aline whilst away earlier this week, another one followed that just happened to rhyme.
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Post by dontask on Oct 25, 2009 19:05:26 GMT
like it or not, when you are writing a poem, you are writing. there are times for me when my writing is spontaneous and it creates something good, and there are times when it creates something abit dire and these are times i maybe need to spend abit more time crafting the poem.
but either way, its completely your decision to do this sort of thing. your right, i do doubt you and the sob story isnt going to change that.
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 25, 2009 19:08:16 GMT
Doubt me then, I don't expect anything otherwise, just part of the landscape now.
You've heard my opinion on the writing thing now, but it's not writing anymore, I'm just repeating myself with every post now, that's the idea.
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Post by dontask on Oct 25, 2009 19:11:57 GMT
write about different things then? not every poem has to be about you or your opinions on things.
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 25, 2009 19:15:07 GMT
They aren't, they where, and it worked for a time. But it' not about anything now, I relate, but in a weird way, not personally. They just come and get put onto paper as they are told to me. Theme is themeless now, the theme is not to have a theme, but for someone to read it, when it's ready, and relate to it, it's international, because it can work with so many people.
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