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Post by benraul on Jan 18, 2009 18:32:44 GMT
In regards to modern music, how does this last decade rate for you? We only have one more year left of it, so is an intersting time to reflect on the music since the turn of the new century.
60s and 70s were very important for modern music with the Beatles, Kinks, Stones etc etc etc.
The 90s saw Brit Pop take over.
How do you think the 00s will be looked back on?
Do you think it has been n importanttime for music in a good or bad way?
Obviously the way we all listen to music now has changed as well as the type of musicians that are popular.
Anyways, enough of my jumbled post, I am interested in your thoughts.
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Post by dontask on Jan 18, 2009 18:51:41 GMT
the rise of the download will be very important. new bands stepping into stadiums left and right will be important. arctic monkeys, libertines, muse, coldplay, kings of leon, etc all had come forward and been important this decade. a decade of reunions.
also the shift from importance from music sold to live shows as the primary way of making money.
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Post by benraul on Jan 18, 2009 19:18:58 GMT
Do you think it has been a good decade for music dontask? Do you think any of the above mentioned will be remembered for making a difference to music in say twenty years?
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Post by antoine010891 on Jan 18, 2009 19:41:59 GMT
I think that it has really been a poor decade with the odd exception. The Libertines, The Strokes, Kings of Leon. And more recent, Arctic Monkeys, a spark of life from the likes of The Courteeners and The View.
Older bands have died off, Oasis being one, and unless U2 produce a masterpiece with this new album then they are heading to their grave.
For me, the 60's sparked pop music, it was at it's peak in the 80's (smiths, la's etc) and has slowly fucked us all off year by year.
With some luck, we have a couple of quality bands hanging about at the moment, The Courteeners, The View and the sorts as mentioned above, and they will make some magic and give Britpop a kick start again and get it to the peak of Britains music scene, the only way it can be ruined is with bands like Razorlight and The Kooks factory packaging more tripe.
It's up to you lads, make it count, make it your decade!
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Post by Fergal on Jan 18, 2009 19:52:54 GMT
I'd not say that the 80s was the peak of music, we're in a more consistant decade now than we were then. I reckon this last ten years has had its fair share of shit, but so has every decade, but its got a lot to be remembered for. The download is one massive legacy, but I'd say thats more of a revolution in technology than musically. We've had the Libertines, Arctic Monkeys, Coldplay, Strokes, KOL, Muse, not a fan of all of those but there's been a lot to be proud of. It's been consistant and us Brits have been leading the way It's been evolution, not revolution, there's been no massive breakthrough like Punk or Acid House or Disco or whatever, but music's came on
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2009 21:56:11 GMT
the rise of the internet and R+B. music has never been as sh*t. you might mention libertines, arctics, KOL, muse, and bloc party (who havn't been mentioned yet) but none of them constitute what has been mainstream in the past decade. Hip Hop and all that drivel have been mainstream.
benraul makes a good point. with the exception maybe of KOL, Muse (neither of which im a big fan of), bloc party and arctic monkeys, i highly doubt that any of this decades indie guitar bands will have a lasting effect 20 years from now.
ant mate, i think you're being extremelly optimistic about the courteeners second album if you think the lads will have a lasting impact on british music.
it'd need to be up there with Definitely Maybe, Different Class, Meat is Murder and The Stone Roses (self-titled). Unfortunately, I can't see it being quite good enough =/
more positively, as regards guitar music, britain has continued to lead the way =]
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Post by dontask on Jan 19, 2009 15:44:49 GMT
i certainly think the libertines and arctic monkeys will be remembered. muse will be and if kings of leon carry on then so will they. sure it hasnt been mainstream but on the other hand neither were some older rock bands that are still remembered. any way all of the above have had top 5 singles? arctic monkeys in particular to say they havent had mainstream success is off and also all had no.1 albums (i believe, not sure about libertines).
the return of britpop is not what i want. i dont think bands like that belong in stadiums persay, i want an energetic performance and a f*ck off light show to make up for the fact tht im one of 60,000 others. oasis get away with it on the back of pure sing-along moments.
n no i dont think the courteeners will make a massive impact BUT perhaps im wrong. give them 2 albums then ill say.
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Post by dontask on Jan 19, 2009 15:47:52 GMT
Do you think it has been a good decade for music dontask? Do you think any of the above mentioned will be remembered for making a difference to music in say twenty years? i didnt say either of those things. i dont think its been a bad decade for music, we might not like alot of the mainstream stuff, but people obviously do. im glad it isnt all britpop anymore the change is good. and yes i do think muse, coldplay, kings of leon, arctic monkeys will be remembered, perhaps not for making a massive difference to music but they will be remembered. innovation is all but dead.
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Post by antoine010891 on Jan 19, 2009 17:16:41 GMT
I think that being a quality band, like KOL, Strokes, Arctic Monkeys etc is different to being innovative. The only band from the decade that you can say has been innovative is The Libertines, the impact they have had on bands still going is pretty amazing.
As regards to a second Courteeners album, I'm usually a real pessimist, but I'm optimistic about this second album, I just get a feeling when you hear St. Jude and the sorts you are just getting the basics of The Courteeners and there is so much more to come, just hearing a demo acoustic of songs like revolver you know that Liam isn't just your average everyday songwriter like Turner or Fretwell (no disrespect, both are amazing), I just think that he can do something special with modern music, providing he has the music to go with the lyrics, he can have it all.
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Post by benraul on Jan 19, 2009 18:22:02 GMT
Do you think it has been a good decade for music dontask? Do you think any of the above mentioned will be remembered for making a difference to music in say twenty years? i didnt say either of those things. i dont think its been a bad decade for music, we might not like alot of the mainstream stuff, but people obviously do. im glad it isnt all britpop anymore the change is good. and yes i do think muse, coldplay, kings of leon, arctic monkeys will be remembered, perhaps not for making a massive difference to music but they will be remembered. innovation is all but dead. I wasnt aiming that at you dontask. I was merely adding more questions to the topic as no one had commented on what I asked.
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Post by upton on Jan 19, 2009 18:57:28 GMT
It will be rememberd for shite however I will remember it for The Libertines The Strokes Babyshambles The Cribs Kasabian Kol Arctic Monkeys.
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Post by fastfuse on Jan 19, 2009 19:05:16 GMT
I think the standard of music has been so much higher than when so called "britpop" was at its peak. There have been some outstanding groups in the last 8/9 years. Its just that "britpop" got people intrseted in picking up guitars again. There was some real sh*t bands around then echobelly, northen uproar, gene to name a few.
The Strokes, The Arctic Monkeys, The Libs, Kings Of Leon, The Coral.....amd my favourite KASABIAN
Alex Turner "average". Fucking hell Ant.....Hes outstanding!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2009 19:47:52 GMT
yh there is arguably noone that can rival alex turner's lyrical ability, and if this 3rd arctics album is as good as we all expect, they might be one of the few bands who do leave a legacy.
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Post by Fergal on Jan 19, 2009 21:07:03 GMT
Arctic Monkeys have already left a legacy, I reckon. The impact of those two albums, even if they split up today, is already huge or will present itself to be huge in the future. Standing there at LCCG in summer 2007 made me realise, they'd pretty much done it, like what people say about Oasis at Knebworth or Stone Roses at Spike Island, it was one of them moments, no overstatement. If their third album is just as good, then the legacy will be vastly improved, few bands manage 3 great albums on the trot.
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Post by fastfuse on Jan 19, 2009 21:16:32 GMT
For such a young lad its stupid really what he's doing, lets not forget that Last Shadow Puppets album there was some great tracks on that too. His work rate is outstanding...He's going to end up like Weller a true gem!!!
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