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Post by Fergal on Sept 30, 2009 21:07:33 GMT
Alright all,
Thought I'd get the ball rolling on this.
Anyone got any interesting views? Thoughts on the Sun backing the Tories? Brown's speech at the LPC in Brighton? THAT question on Andrew Marr on Sunday? Anything else of interest? Get stuck in
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Post by sirmavers on Sept 30, 2009 21:10:38 GMT
I know nothing about politics, I can vote next year, and I want to, so maybe I can learn something from you guys  My dad has tried to bring me up to hate Tories to immense perportions, but still to make my own mind up |
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Post by dontask on Sept 30, 2009 21:11:40 GMT
i wanted ant to do a governemnt week over in the poetry corner.
i have very weird opinions when it comes to government. having read rule by secrecy by jim marrs it leads you to be believe that countries are being led by the unseen and the leaders are just figureheads and scapegoats.
however in the more acceptable world, i think peoples main issue with gordon brown is that he cant deliver a speech in the way blair does due to lack of charisma. i find that hard to swallow. i dont like him being in power but thats just because he was not elected.
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Post by lysergicacid on Oct 3, 2009 3:45:22 GMT
I'd sooner skiddy up my undies then wipe my shitty arse on that scum paper. Seems to me all 3 big parties are pretty much of a muchness. It irks me we have a Scot leading us though, got his own parliament there, go use it.
You should dip your toe into a bit of David Icke dontask. For all the shit he gets throw at him, his books are a fine read. His 9/11 is a real beauty.
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Post by dontask on Oct 4, 2009 10:23:41 GMT
aye but ive heard all the 9/11 theories already will look into a different one by him though if you think i would like him. |
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Post by upton on Oct 4, 2009 15:06:34 GMT
If a election was to be called now I would vote Torie I think a change is needed Labour have let us down.
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Post by lysergicacid on Oct 5, 2009 1:01:29 GMT
wiki has a decent bio on the guy dontask, check it and see if its the kinda stuff u interested in.
I think The Biggest Secret by him was good read, deals with the Freemasons and there influence amongst other stuff.
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Post by lysergicacid on Oct 23, 2009 12:20:51 GMT
What a damp squib question time was, I was hoping for some agro. That loser griffin seemed way out his depth The only thing funny was watching that Straw squirm after hearing about his father being a conscientious objector in ww2. shitbag |
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Post by Sean on Oct 23, 2009 12:40:58 GMT
ive said before i dont really understand much about politics so dont have a go. i watched the main hightlights of question time this morning and i have to say that griffin is a complete idiot and i do not agree with any of what he says however i can understand why a minority vote for him. read a story on bbc about who does actually vote for him and it went to a run down area of london, a pretty rough area basically. they asked voters who did vote for him and they said its because their community is more foreign than english and they feel alienated in their own country. the problem is though these people dont understand how extreme griffin is, there does need to be a bit of action done to prevent alienation in your own hometown etc but griffin is not the answer, and neithers his party. to get rid of the bnp another party has to commit more to the problem we have in this country, in my 15 year old opinion anyway.
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Post by sirmavers on Oct 23, 2009 12:48:39 GMT
I won't go into how stupid Griffin is. But on the subject of islam he was spot on. Any religeon who treat woman as minors make me angry, but otherwise was an idiot. I was sat watching it with a chinese a black and a gay at my brothers house, which I found ammusing
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Post by dontask on Oct 23, 2009 14:12:08 GMT
griffin, despite being an absolute scumbag, made some very good points. the whole question time thing was handled very badly however because in truth it was a room of people against one dude, he was made to look like the victim in the room i think and this is not the best way to convince the country not to vote for him. if the whole thing had been more even i think it would be alot easier to say for sure, yeah they are wankers.
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Post by cb on Oct 23, 2009 19:44:45 GMT
the bnp are gays
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Post by Fergal on Oct 24, 2009 9:41:15 GMT
Griffin is a joke and the BNP are the National Front in a suit, and they're very wrong. I do agree that it was right for them to be on Question Time however I think the BBC cocked up majorly in the handling of Question Time on Thursday night. The usual format of QT was completely lost and it turned into a witch trial, and though I felt a good ten/fifteen minutes should have been spent interrogating Griffin, I felt it was stupid to take up an hour of a programme doing this. They didn't mention any of the current big issues that need debating on a programme like Question Time, for instance the Postal Strike. Jack Straw was fantastic on it and I am proud to have him as Blackburn MP, however it all just felt a bit too much of a witch hunt for my liking and did little justice to the great institution that Question Time is.
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Post by dontask on Oct 25, 2009 17:55:40 GMT
jack straw answered the questions that werent asked as far as i can tell. im very unedcuated when it come to politics and im sure you know alot more than me about the man fergal but he struck me as very evasive. not as evasive as nick griffin but you get the idea.
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Post by lysergicacid on Oct 27, 2009 3:39:31 GMT
Agreed there dontask. The only question that was aimed at Straw (govs projected immigration figs and actual numbers), he waffled on giving a load of party line tripe. Even Dimbleby had to stop him. Suppose most politicians are slimes, like scout masters are paedo's.
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My dad has tried to bring me up to hate Tories to immense perportions, but still to make my own mind up 
